Hypixel SkyBlock Wiki talk:Tutorials Bootcamp

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welcome to the first week of the tutorials bootcamp! We can do whatever we want in the tutorials bootcamp. Ideas for restructuring, creating new articles are all great for discussion. What comes out of this discussion should be some tangible goals that we can achieve in about 2 weeks.

Mirror: MonkeysHK feels like the tutorials are too spread out, and some organization will benefit. He said we can have a Skills category for tips and guides (for different stages of gameplay) to level up each individual skill. He said research can be done (by experience, interviews or from youtube videos) to compile information for these articles and find topics to write about.

Mirror: Kwopy mentioned that the best way to kickstart this is which tutorials you believe need the most attention. Together with AaronLao and TheTrueShaman, they came up with the following that need utmost attention:
 * Tutorial:Maximizing Sword Damage (Outdated)
 * Tutorial:Mobs (Outdated + Needs Revamp)
 * Tutorial:Tools Guide (Outdated)
 * Tutorial:Armor Guide (Outdated)
 * Tutorial:Mining Guide
 * Tutorial:Fishing Guide (Needs revamp for garden update + teleport pad removal)

Mirror: Kwopy given the following list and asked for suggestions:
 * Pearl spamming (obsolete)
 * Ranged weapons guide
 * Dragon fights
 * Slayer guide
 * Meele weapons guide
 * Dante bypasses (obsolete)
 * Exp share core grind
 * Snow minion flipping (what even is that lol)
 * Navigation (the rest of the map (and dungeons if we feel really ambitious))

Mirror: It was concerned that some articles are not relevant as a tutorial and shall be deleted. "We need to consider whether Exp share core grind might be too specific yet irrelevant of a tutorial. Dragon fights needs to be updated according to "recent" information on the way dragon fight weight works." Others brought out that it is best to be kept for historical/record keeping. The final consent was that agreement must be made before such a deletion.

Mirror: Also, everyone agreed that pages that are allowed to exist should definitely have more information and needs to be update to standards.

Mirror: There were voices about we should focus on deleting/archiving unnecessary tutorials and revamping the Farm guides for Sprint 1, and other voices about starting all tutorials from scratch to keep up with the metas. Some of the editors think we should stick to the meta like a series of progression guides.

Sprint 1 discussion was over, and the goal was to focus on auditing previous articles, and bring categories to the articles in these two weeks.

Mirror: Kwopy issued a list of 7 tutorials that has to be revamped, which has the current status of:
 * Fishing Guide | Yes | Good design, wording and content. Up to date.
 * Maxing Skills | | Poor design, outdated info and poor content.
 * Carrot/Potato/Nether Wart/Wheat Farm | Yes | Good design, wording and content. Up to date.
 * Pumpkin/Melon Farm | Yes | Good design, wording and content. Up to date.
 * Mushroom Farm | No | Poor design, wording and content. Outdated.
 * Sugar Cane Farm | No | Poor design, wording and content. Outdated.
 * Cocoa Beans Farm | No | Poor design, wording and content. Outdated.

The second sprint discussion of the bootcamp has begun! Now is the discussion session for this sprint where we discuss the new goals for the next two weeks! This time, besides finishing the previous goals if not done, I think we can expand on certain topics or finding what SkyBlock players might enjoy. Let's see if you agree to expand on certain topics or finding other topics that players enjoy, if so, let's brainstorm on what those could be!

Mirror: MonkeysHK mentioned he will bring categorization for readers during this sprint and it will be openly editable on User:MonkeysHK/sandbox9 during the time of working on this project.

Mirror: Deftiloon mentioned Maxing Skills guide isn't needed, alternatively just have a maxing skills part in every skill guide. He suggests renaming "Maxing Items" to "Upgrade Guide" that would give a list of item upgrades and also state when they are worth, and on which kinds of items they are worth. He thinks that there are some little points of interest for every skills, except cosmetic and taming, that are worth mentioning.

Sprint 2 discussion was over, and the goal was to expand guides of different points of interest, in addition to finishing the fix-up that was proposed in Sprint 1.

Sprint 2 has ended, and the next two days are the discussion for Sprint 3! This time, discussion will end right at the end of 5/9 according to UTC time. The messages will be live-mirrored to the wiki's discussion unlike previous times. We will also make an announcement to editors who have engaged. With your experience with Sprint 1 and 2, please set forth to discuss our plans for Sprint 3!

Mirror: MonkeysHK suggested that participants expand on a certain amount of new articles this week, specifically skills guide. He given the following list:
 * Existing: Mining, Fishing, Farming, Dungeoneering
 * Not existing: Foraging, Enchanting, Alchemy, Taming, Carpentry, Runecrafting, Social

Mirror: MonkeysHK suggested finishing foraging, enchanting, alchemy guides within two weeks, stating it would take around 2 main writers with some proofreaders. Kwopy suggested that enchanting has no point of interest and it would be better to prioritize alchemy.

Hope you enjoyed Sprint 3! Now we can discuss the fourth sprint goals. What else would we want to achieve in our final sprint? What is not perfect yet? Leave your thoughts.

Mirror: Absterge suggested the removal or heavy modification of Tutorial:Lowballing to remove all references to advertising and such. He mentioned that Hypixel would issue mutes for spamming lobbies like it suggests in the tutorial, and it would not be good to recommend to new players. Other editors agreed.

Mirror: Aaron gave these suggestion about what areas are good to write about: Additionally, he suggested a calculator where when stats are imported shows the person's average money gain.
 * tips and tricks to deal with certain mobs
 * the absolute minimum gear to perform a certain action
 * limited budget gear progression

The goal in Sprint 4 will be about Aaron's areas of interest, aiming for 1 article. The other goal is to finish all reworks of other tutorial pages that were laid out in Sprint 1.